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John,

Was wondering what prompted the addition of all the flatiron peaks with no closed contours (my guess is that Brian and Brian slipped you a $20!)? I thought that was a conscious decision a while back as a way to weed out what should be included in LOJ.

Are you going to start adding in others that had been on LOJ and were deleted? Just looking at previous threads, like Michigan Hill.
viewtopic.php?f=6&t=270&p=1497&hilit=closed+contour#p1497

Haha, I almost put that icon on the end of my post!

mikeofferman wrote:John,
Was wondering what prompted the addition of all the flatiron peaks with no closed contours (my guess is that Brian and Brian slipped you a $20!)? I thought that was a conscious decision a while back as a way to weed out what should be included in LOJ.

It's a slippery slope I didn't want to go down but couldn't control the slide. Consistency for one purpose becomes its own undoing for another. I guess this became (re)introduced with some Sierra Club lists that required addition of contour-less summits. Then Secor's book, then Flatirons.

Mike does bring up a good point, though. Should officially named summits without closed contours, such as Michigan Hill, be included in the database?

Brian Kalet wrote:Mike does bring up a good point, though. Should officially named summits without closed contours, such as Michigan Hill, be included in the database?

When there is evidence of some prominence, yes... Guidebook or photo.

For Michigan Hill, Jeremy said there was 20' - 30' of prominence.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=270&p=1497&hilit=closed+contour#p1497

Is there some kind of prominence cutoff, 1', 5', 10', 20'?? Or is it just playing it by ear and seeing what people turn in to add?

mikeofferman wrote:For Michigan Hill, Jeremy said there was 20' - 30' of prominence.

Added back. Probably case-by-case unless there is demonstrable prominence.

Why all the TP? Brian seemed perfectly fine without any in the Flatirons today...

Brian Crim wrote:Why all the TP? Brian seemed perfectly fine without any in the Flatirons today...

Did he find the poison ivy?

Hmm... Now I have to try and remember what I did...