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New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby mikeofferman » Tue Dec 02, 2014 9:02 am

John,

Was wondering what prompted the addition of all the flatiron peaks with no closed contours (my guess is that Brian and Brian slipped you a $20!)? I thought that was a conscious decision a while back as a way to weed out what should be included in LOJ.

Are you going to start adding in others that had been on LOJ and were deleted? Just looking at previous threads, like Michigan Hill.
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby Brian Kalet » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:16 pm

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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby mikeofferman » Tue Dec 02, 2014 12:50 pm

Haha, I almost put that icon on the end of my post!
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby John Kirk » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:19 pm

mikeofferman wrote:John,
Was wondering what prompted the addition of all the flatiron peaks with no closed contours (my guess is that Brian and Brian slipped you a $20!)? I thought that was a conscious decision a while back as a way to weed out what should be included in LOJ.


It's a slippery slope I didn't want to go down but couldn't control the slide. Consistency for one purpose becomes its own undoing for another. I guess this became (re)introduced with some Sierra Club lists that required addition of contour-less summits. Then Secor's book, then Flatirons.
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby Brian Kalet » Tue Dec 02, 2014 1:40 pm

Mike does bring up a good point, though. Should officially named summits without closed contours, such as Michigan Hill, be included in the database?
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby John Kirk » Tue Dec 02, 2014 3:18 pm

Brian Kalet wrote:Mike does bring up a good point, though. Should officially named summits without closed contours, such as Michigan Hill, be included in the database?


When there is evidence of some prominence, yes... Guidebook or photo.
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby mikeofferman » Thu Dec 04, 2014 7:48 am

For Michigan Hill, Jeremy said there was 20' - 30' of prominence.

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=270&p=1497&hilit=closed+contour#p1497

Is there some kind of prominence cutoff, 1', 5', 10', 20'?? Or is it just playing it by ear and seeing what people turn in to add?
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby John Kirk » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:41 am

mikeofferman wrote:For Michigan Hill, Jeremy said there was 20' - 30' of prominence.


Added back. Probably case-by-case unless there is demonstrable prominence.
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby Brian Crim » Sat Dec 06, 2014 4:33 pm

Why all the TP? Brian seemed perfectly fine without any in the Flatirons today...

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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby John Kirk » Mon Dec 08, 2014 9:50 am

Brian Crim wrote:Why all the TP? Brian seemed perfectly fine without any in the Flatirons today...

:shock:


Did he find the poison ivy? :twisted:
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Re: New peaks added with no closed contours.

Postby Jeremy Hakes » Tue Dec 09, 2014 10:14 pm

Hmm... Now I have to try and remember what I did... :?
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